Oregon Brain Preservation

I consider cooling to be a second line of defense. Immediate chemical treatment of the cells to halt metabolism and add cross-links should be the primary goal. But since we know that perfusion is not uniform, cold perfusate can be used to slow metabolism in nearby tissue. Conductive heat transfer is...

There's a fairly well written article about cryonics here: https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html But the ideas that it lays out are flawed, and are based on the utopian Alcor and CI themes instead of on science. 1. Become a member, get a life insurance policy, wear a bracelet, die. This might...

> Maybe you say this so that people realize what they are up against. Yes, that's right. And no, I have not succeeded. I might succeed in the future, but this is way harder than I ever thought it would be. Someone with less resources will fail. I'm not trying to discourage conversations and a few sp...

No, neither of those is my point. I'll be super simple and blunt. If you want to help cryonics get more members, or if you want to help start a new organization to improve local support, you can't. Quit thinking you can.

Your post was hard for me to read. I think what you are saying is that you want to put $50k into a fund that would pay for transfer to CI if we go bankrupt. Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Also, the pages you are referencing on our website are looking out of date, so the discussion would be bette...

I agree that we aren't doing any better than them. That's kind of my point. All the services from all the organizations are terrible useless rituals almost all the time. I will make some changes to the website to make that more clear. There is a fair amount of outdated info on there which shows hist...

Cryonics Symposium International is being held at the Church of Perpetual Life in Florida on Saturday, July 27, 2019. I'm not going. They are good people, and I'm sure they mean well, but this meeting does not increase my chance of survival for the following reasons: -Its association with a "ch...

My advice is the most rational, so I think it's also the most common course of action, including in all your examples. My advice won't change anyone's mind. I'm just stating what should be obvious and what most people already do intuitively. Aubrey probably followed that path because he wanted to so...

When I go to cryonics calculator, all the risks are clearly for phase II. So their characterization as "success" vs "failure" is accurate in the context of phase II. But it doesn't address phase I at all. Yet when you say that you are looking out for ways to improve that number, ...

I see 1% getting thrown around a lot in various contexts. The usual claim is that a 1% chance of revival if cryopreserved is better than the 0% chance if cremated. This is sometimes bolstered by a claim that the payoff is billions of years of additional life, so the 1% translates to millions of year...

That's the complete opposite of what I'm suggesting. How does quitting your daytime job help ensure your survival? It would just make you poor and unfunded. I'm trying to discourage people from any outreach, fundraising, volunteering, etc. My entire point is that it's all completely useless because ...

I talk to many people who want to help advance cryonics. They want to somehow contribute to our cause. Well, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there's really nothing you can do. It's too big of a problem, and you have too few resources. You can't volunteer or donate or do anything else tha...

I'm assuming you've already downgraded to neuro, if possible. I'm also assuming you're talking about a few years from now, when we are fully up and running. Nearby small towns don't seem like a good idea to me because that distance would add significant time to any response. But a 30 minute wait for...

I don't know. Maybe seven. We discourage it unless you live in Salem. It's totally pointless to sign up for a service that is so far away that nobody can possibly get to you in time. This is also why I let my Alcor and CI memberships lapse years ago. You really need to live in the same city as your ...

No, high quality chemical fixation alone is not good enough. Damage over time is very significant due to molecular motion. There is no sharp deadline on how fast fixation must be followed by cryopreservation, but it's in the range of hours, not years.

Well, believing in something doesn't make it true. We know that preserving all molecular structure, including all synapses, axons, DNA, etc. would preserve memory. But it's just not plausible that the DNA alone is enough. I've thought about this exact issue for years. Tell you what, go try to convin...

In spite of my strong feelings of injustice in this case, I think it's also worth noting that Doug Bowling did not actually harm Danielle. Her chances of revival were already zero. I believe her body went undiscovered for about three days. There was nothing left of her mind by that point. It was irr...

Zoltan Istvan just contributed an article to Quartz: https://qz.com/1555363/cryogenics-is-facing-legal-trouble-with-body-preservation/ I'm quoted in it. While the quotes are technically accurate, I'm not sure the context is accurate. I think the best thing to do here is to just list out what I think...

Hmm. They don't seem to have it on their website yet. It was in an Alcor newsletter sent out to members by email, which someone then kindly forwarded to me. I'll post it here for now, and then replace the text with a link, once they have it up: by Max More The first major acquisition paid for by the...

Not really. I remember he posted at least one photo series on his FB page and described his visit in detail.

Maybe I was unclear. Mike has visited OC repeatedly over the years. I've learned a number of things through face-to-face communication that were important. Of course, our opinions differ about many things, but that's not a deal breaker. After a number of years, we sort of ran out of things to say to...

What are you talking about? Ben has been here many times over the years.

Alcor just announced that they purchased a CT scanner. It's about time. They chose a Vimago, which I think was an outstanding choice. Because it's sold to veterinarians instead of physicians, the cost is able to be lower. Surprisingly, the resolution is 10x that of other similar medical CT scanners,...

DetnPx, you are assuming that reversible suspended animation is a real possibility. I'm pretty sure it's not. I think the only way to reverse it is going to be to take the whole brain apart molecule by molecule until it's completely disassembled -- in other words, a destructive scan. I hardly think ...

Mati_Roy, I think your projections are too optimistic. 13,000 patients in the next 40 years? Anyway, the number of patients or members doesn't really seem to correlate with quality of care. I would rather have my case be a sole good one rather than be one of 13,000 poor cases. DetnPx, I don't quite ...

Aschwin de Wolf wrote an article that just came out in Long Life Magazine. The title is "Part 4: New Research and Future Development". He devoted the second half of the article to Aldehyde Stabilized Cryopreservation (ASC), which is the protocol that we employ at Oregon Cryonics. I think h...

Also, that office was dependent on one or two very wealthy people coming along to fund it. This does happen, but I now realize that even those kinds of people are not willing to pay the true monthly costs. They tend to be willing to pay for immediate tangible equipment such as an ambulance or a dewa...

Sorry the forum was down for a few weeks. We reconfigured our wiring and internal IP addresses. This server was the last computer that I got to, and then I didn't realize it still wasn't working for a few more days because our WAN address changed slightly. Anyway, that's a long way of saying we're s...

I have finally abandoned my vision of having a branch office in the Bay Area. I'm getting older (47), and there just simply isn't enough time. I guess the good news is that it will allow me to focus more on my work here in Salem. By not spreading myself too thin, I think I can to a better job here. ...