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I've been firmly convinced for over 10 years that revival will be purely digital rather than biological. In either case, you must first scan and fix everything digitally. The engineering must involve being able to run an emulation, ensuring that the mind can wake up. If you want to revive someone bi...

Well, that's nice. But the obvious glaring question is how that helps us survive. I don't think it helps. A smattering of new members here and there isn't going to make much of a difference. We lost the numbers game. Maybe you think it's good that those 25 people will now survive. But I don't think ...

Osiris is a fairly new cryonics company. It's a one man show run by Dvir Derhy. https://osiriscryonics.com/ I'm aware of at least two patients at that facility. Dvir has no medical or scientific background at all and really doesn't have a clue what he's doing, but has amazingly managed to put togeth...

When I use the term cryonics "professional", I keep assuming it's obvious what I'm talking about. Apparently, the dysfunctional cryonics establishment has abused that term for so long that everyone's confused about this simple concept. A professional is someone who is skilled in a specific...

I was reminded off list of Curtis Henderson, who sat for an hour at the hospital waiting for the funeral director, and who seems to have benefited from CPS, as evidenced by the CO2 detector. But did he really benefit, in the end, from having lay people perform his procedures? That was a topic of muc...

We're all frustrated because our options are so bad. Arguing is one way to feel like we're getting somewhere. It doesn't actually solve any problems unless the people arguing are making independent progress.

That looks like something Mike would say. I'm not sure if I want to get into a proxy argument. The simple answer is that that's true if the patient died suddenly, and if you start soon enough, and if the setting allows it. But I'm not sure any cryonics case meets those criteria. I think it's rare th...

Dr. Ken Hayworth posted this letter in Jan, 2018: http://www.brainpreservation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/letterofsupportforasc_kennethhayworth_jan2018-signed.pdf In the letter, he supports combining aldehyde fixation with cryopreservation -- the exact protocol that we have been pursuing for yea...

The only way to improve quality is going to be to nurture a set of dedicated full-time professionals who routinely perform a case every few weeks. That's just the baseline for obtaining decent quality in any business. Changing fixative, technique, or equipment is irrelevant without that foundation i...

Thank you for bringing this up. I have looked into glyoxal, and there are some claims that it penetrates faster and preserves cell morphology better. I'm not at all interested in any reversibility qualities. My ideal brain preservation would look like a solid block of epoxy, so I consider reversibil...

This post was made by cryomorph at the end of a different thread, but I think it deserves its own thread. Hi Jordan.... Here is a copy of a post that I put up on NCN earlier today. Save me having to write it all out again. Thought I'd copy it over to this thread as I know you don't 'tune in' to NCN ...

I've also laid out future repair scenarios, with my rough estimates of timelines. http://www.oregoncryo.com/futureTechnology.html I think what might be still missing on the website is a page describing what you might do with this information once retrieved. It won't be 100%. Scenarios to resolve thi...

Sure, that's possible in theory. But I also think it sounds absolutely crazy complicated for a real case. I also don't see any advantage compared to ASC. So you have an extremely complex procedure that hasn't even been demonstrated or perfected yet, and also has no advantage. No, thank you.

I never said ASC was more toxic. Exactly the opposite. See http://www.oregoncryo.com/suspendedAnimation.html . The word "toxic" is an absolutely meaningless term in this context. With all cryonics, we will need to repair covalent bonds, so there is no additional complexity at all to also r...

Not that again. To everyone else, that page seems to be nothing but completely incoherent rambling. It's amazingly long. It's a total waste of your time to try to make sense of it. I already wasted a good 30 minutes of my life thinking that there might be something rational buried within.

That spreadsheet deserves a new thread. It looks like it took forever.

I think ASC is suitable for future revival -- even better than older cryonics technology.

No, it's not easier for a clinician to learn a different cannulation technique than to learn to fly a small plane. It only takes 10 to 20 hours of flying before you are allowed to solo. From there you have additional skills you could learn and you also have to do it regularly to maintain proficiency...

I've ignored New Cryonet for a long time because they have no new information to offer me. This forum also has no new information to offer me, but it is one way to provide clarity about what I'm doing. I have no intention of reading Mr. (not Dr.) Darwin's 11 page response. While his medical knowledg...

You still don't get it. The quality is really bad if you don't perfuse while the patient is still alive and healthy . Our patients are not alive and they are not healthy. Their brains have already suffered ischemia in the hours leading up to death as well as after death. 30 minutes of cooling might ...

I'm a clinician, not a researcher. So we don't really do research here, but we instead work on refining clinical procedures to make them blazing fast and extremely reliable. I took down that one report #4 precisely because I'm not a researcher. A poor result from someone who doesn't perform research...

The surgical technique is described here:
http://oregoncryo.com/manual/cannulae.html
http://oregoncryo.com/manual/surgicalProcedures.html
Liquid ventilation would be far slower than the technique above. Also, cooling is far less effective than actual perfusion.

It's been a few years, so I updated most of the pages on our website. I got rid of links to the member portal because member growth is no longer a goal, and members are a costly distraction. I also removed the page about the Reanimation Fund as an overfunding mechanism. Overfunding now just goes int...

Well, never in my natural lifetime. Never in the next 50 years at least.

Yes, hypothermia would be great, but as you agreed, it's never going to be used on a cryonics patient. Even the laws for pets won't allow premortem hypothermia.

Biostasis is a terrible word in cryonics. Biostasis actually refers to the ability of microorganisms such as bacteria and fungi to stay alive in extreme conditions. As environmental conditions later improve, their cells recover and function normally again. Any scientist seeing the word biostasis in ...

I consider cooling to be a second line of defense. Immediate chemical treatment of the cells to halt metabolism and add cross-links should be the primary goal. But since we know that perfusion is not uniform, cold perfusate can be used to slow metabolism in nearby tissue. Conductive heat transfer is...

There's a fairly well written article about cryonics here: https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html But the ideas that it lays out are flawed, and are based on the utopian Alcor and CI themes instead of on science. 1. Become a member, get a life insurance policy, wear a bracelet, die. This might...

> Maybe you say this so that people realize what they are up against. Yes, that's right. And no, I have not succeeded. I might succeed in the future, but this is way harder than I ever thought it would be. Someone with less resources will fail. I'm not trying to discourage conversations and a few sp...

No, neither of those is my point. I'll be super simple and blunt. If you want to help cryonics get more members, or if you want to help start a new organization to improve local support, you can't. Quit thinking you can.