Monitoring and rapid response to Prevent Unattended Death
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:33 pm
The CI 2023 Annual Meeting had Nikki present her progress with https://www.cryonicsmonitoring.org. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtAnD1nr8EQ&t=3939s. The main benefit over the current CI phone app https://cryonics.org/members/ci-check-in-app/ is that the alarm/alert could go off when you're sleeping too.
The remaining question is who will be alerted by the app/device? It's vital that an entity is able to respond immediately and be able to enter the person's home.
I suspect that most people have a friend or relative as the first person (and that person then contacts CI/Alcor/Oregon Cryo), but I think a service/institution is much more reliable. Relatives often don't support a person's cryonics wishes, and the relative may die first and thus not be available to notify anyone. If the relative doesn't live nearby, then the relative contacting the police (for a wellness check) is insufficient since the police do not have a way to enter the home.
Since I am signed up with SA (Suspended Animation), and live near them, I was thinking that having someone at SA notified by the app and notifying them about a hidden key location would be the best. But SA tells me that they don't accept being the first person to be notified by the CI app.
SA doesn't even get directly contacted by CI/Alcor. They are using a 3rd party answering service as a middleman. They said that their answering service needs to be contacted by a person - a text or automated contact won't work. So it doesn't seem like we can use the app to alert the 3rd party answering service. And even if we could, the ability for first responders to enter would be an issue.
There are probably plenty of people who don't have a reliable "first contact" person. I don't think CI or Alcor accept being contacted directly with the app. I know Alcor offers to call their members every 6 hours or so, but I don't find that to be a good option. The CI app's hourly alarm is superior and less annoying.
When I first installed the app, I was just getting used to smartphones, and I had some false alerts due to using "silent" mode instead of "do not disturb". Now, I usually only send off a false alarm about once a year, and I usually respond with the "never mind it was an accident" text within a minute or two. CI may have thousands of members but I think there are only around 100 using the app. If they all had a yearly false alert it shouldn't add too much burden on a central entity receiving those alerts.
Perhaps we should contact Alcor to see if their "we'll call you every 6 hours" service can be modified to simply be a first contact for the CI app alerts? I think a small fee for such a service would be reasonable, and it should be much less than what Alcor charges to call you twice a day.
It would be great if there were more groups like the Minnesota Cryonics Rapid Response https://minnesotacryonicsrapidresponse.org (video presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtAnD1nr8EQ&t=2583s). But so far, cryonicists in California and Arizona seem uninterested in forming such a group.
How is Oregon Cryo dealing with this?
I will alert Nikki of this thread as well. Perhaps it's something that her group is contemplating and willing to get involved in.
The remaining question is who will be alerted by the app/device? It's vital that an entity is able to respond immediately and be able to enter the person's home.
I suspect that most people have a friend or relative as the first person (and that person then contacts CI/Alcor/Oregon Cryo), but I think a service/institution is much more reliable. Relatives often don't support a person's cryonics wishes, and the relative may die first and thus not be available to notify anyone. If the relative doesn't live nearby, then the relative contacting the police (for a wellness check) is insufficient since the police do not have a way to enter the home.
Since I am signed up with SA (Suspended Animation), and live near them, I was thinking that having someone at SA notified by the app and notifying them about a hidden key location would be the best. But SA tells me that they don't accept being the first person to be notified by the CI app.
SA doesn't even get directly contacted by CI/Alcor. They are using a 3rd party answering service as a middleman. They said that their answering service needs to be contacted by a person - a text or automated contact won't work. So it doesn't seem like we can use the app to alert the 3rd party answering service. And even if we could, the ability for first responders to enter would be an issue.
There are probably plenty of people who don't have a reliable "first contact" person. I don't think CI or Alcor accept being contacted directly with the app. I know Alcor offers to call their members every 6 hours or so, but I don't find that to be a good option. The CI app's hourly alarm is superior and less annoying.
When I first installed the app, I was just getting used to smartphones, and I had some false alerts due to using "silent" mode instead of "do not disturb". Now, I usually only send off a false alarm about once a year, and I usually respond with the "never mind it was an accident" text within a minute or two. CI may have thousands of members but I think there are only around 100 using the app. If they all had a yearly false alert it shouldn't add too much burden on a central entity receiving those alerts.
Perhaps we should contact Alcor to see if their "we'll call you every 6 hours" service can be modified to simply be a first contact for the CI app alerts? I think a small fee for such a service would be reasonable, and it should be much less than what Alcor charges to call you twice a day.
It would be great if there were more groups like the Minnesota Cryonics Rapid Response https://minnesotacryonicsrapidresponse.org (video presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtAnD1nr8EQ&t=2583s). But so far, cryonicists in California and Arizona seem uninterested in forming such a group.
How is Oregon Cryo dealing with this?
I will alert Nikki of this thread as well. Perhaps it's something that her group is contemplating and willing to get involved in.